Friday, 31 July 2009

View from the Closet

Are you hiding in the closet? Are you going to come out?

No I am staying in. Last time I came out I got bashed up and run over by the Cavalry. I am staying put. Come into the closet with me and pull the shutters down!

Princetown: Psycho-warfare

[quote=Functianalyst;100673]Which is why I look at MB theory with suspect. Myers-Briggs focused more on the auxiliary function than the dominant function overall. Intuition is the secondary function for INTPs, hence they are thinkers first.

As for the fuzzy logic, from all I have read it's fuzzy logic in comparison to Te or extraverted thinking which is the most logical type. Our logic being introverted, is based on subjectivity. The less knowledge or experience we have, the fuzzier our logic will be since we do not utilize it to commune with the outside world. We only process information based on what our Ne and Se provides. Without proper use of the secondary function, Ti is barren. INTJs don't use fuzzy logic. Their thought process is linear, and as Lenore Thomson says left-brained. Not sure of your final inquiry, however ENFJs are lead by Fe which by the complete opposite of Ti.[/quote]

INTJs who write the script and all the Critical Stress manuals do not separate the thinking process of an ISTP from an INTP, especially the PN Psychedelics.

I don't want to even bother to tell them because they will only pretend to understand and proceed with their book knowledge to please the Wolfman ENTJ in charge.

They don't do Questor NP, but I will give them a TP project to find an explanation of the extended processing time of information of some INTPs compared to INTJs and ISTPs? Why OODA psychological warfare (mind torture) will send the victim mad or to suicide. Or, if resistant, they send in the Dog Soldiers (ISTJ) and the Bull Sadists (TS) or Carrot Iron (JS) of the Watch or the whole Army including the secret poisoner (ISFJ) and worst of all the (Navy) Cats (ISFP).

Critical Incident Stress


Physical* Cognitive Emotional Behavioral
chills confusion fear withdrawal
thirst nightmares guilt antisocial acts
fatigue uncertainty grief inability to rest
nausea hypervigilance panic intensified pacing
fainting suspiciousness denial erratic movements
twitches intrusive images anxiety change in social activity
vomiting blaming someone agitation change in speech patterns
dizziness poor problem solving irritability loss of or increase in appetite
weakness poor abstract thinking depression hyperalert to environment
chest pain poor attention/ decisions intense anger increased alcohol consumption
headaches poor concentration/memory disorientation of time, place or person apprehension change in usual communications
elevated BP difficulty identifying objects or people heightened or lowered alertness emotional shock etc...
rapid heart rate increased or decreased awareness of surroundings emotional outbursts
muscle tremors etc... feeling overwhelmed
grinding of teeth loss of emotional control
shock symptoms inappropriate emotional response
visual difficulties etc...
profuse sweating
difficulty breathing

* Any of these symptoms may indicate the need for medical evaluation. When in doubt, contact a physician.

Brainstorming Dialogue

I am not interested in problems, I have got solutions: Guido (ISTP).

A Rattlesnake ENTP (TP Projector: could be a Lion ESTP) came disguised a a Wolfman (ENTJ)

Thursday, 30 July 2009

Finger & Thumbs

There are many many different interpretations...

Your left ring finger( or fourth finger) has a vein that goes to your heart, so thus why you wear an engagement ring and wedding ring on this finger.

Wearing a ring on your thumb represents your parents.
Wearing a ring on your pointer finger represents your siblings.
Wearing a ring on your center finger represents yourself.
Wearing a ring on your fourth finger represents your partner.
Wearing a ring on your pinky finger represents your children.

thumb: loud, must make his/her voice heard
index: outspoken, ambitious
middle: materialistic, likes shopping necessesity in life
fourth finger (or married finger): love, marriage
pinky finger: sexual, playful in the bedroom

The best and my favorite finger meanings is this one:

The thumb is the willpower finger. This is the finger that signals the approval of thumbs up or thumbs down, that points to the self in a moment of personal pride, that closes over a fist when personally attacked. It is associated with the total self.

The first, or index finger is the authority finger. This is the finger that wags in disapproval, that gestures informed or stubborn expertise, that indicates silent direction and commands. It is associated with leadership and ambition.

The second finger is the identity finger. This is the finger most often used in obscene gesturing when one wishes to express an offense to personal dignity. This seems to be the finger with the most strength and balance, rooted firmly in the center of the hand. It is associated with our role in life, practicality, and the regulation of the foundations and limits of self. This finger announces I am and governs the way we see ourselves, our potentials, and our limitations.

The third, or ring, finger is the creativity finger. It is the least independent of the fingers, making it difficult to operate as a single unit. To find a use for this finger as an actual tool would certainly require some creativity in itself. Instead it is most often used in conjunction with the little finger. Since this is the finger for most rings, it is also associated with affections, optimism, and artistic appreciation.

The little finger is the relationship finger. It is located farthest from the thumb, the self, and is turned out toward other people and the outer environment. This finger expresses man's attitudes toward personal and sexual relationships. It is associated with rewards, both on a personal and materialistic level.


Druids v Romans

As the historian Tacitus would later put it:

By the shore stood an opposing battle-line, thick with men and weapons, woman running between them, like the Furies in their funereal clothes, their hair flowing, carrying torches; and Druids among them, pouring out frightful curses with their hands raised high to the heavens, our soldiers being so scared by the unfamiliar sight that their limbs were paralyzed, and they stood motionless and exposed to be wounded.

It only took the Roman soldiers a few minutes to regain their wits and courage. Embarrassed by their earlier case of willies, they set about slaughtering the Druids and raising their sacred groves.

In simple terms the Druids were the priests of the Celtic tribes in Britain. But to state that fact does not convey the breadth of their influence in Celtic society. The Druids were a sort of super-class of priests, political advisors, teachers, healers, and arbitrators among the Celtic tribes.

They had their own universities, where traditional knowledge was passed on by rote (i.e. memorized). Druids had the right to speak ahead of the king in council, and may in some situations have held more authority than the king. They acted as ambassadors in time of war, they composed verse and upheld the law. They were a sort of glue holding together Celtic culture.

Native Americans - 1

It is axiomatic that the White settlers did not understand the Native Americans. seeing a people banded together, travelling together, sharing together the resources of food, the oustiders jumped to the conclusion that there was a common interest, that there was a fixed and formal government, the chief as a high magistrate with power to promulgate and enforce laws, upon all the people. Believing in this interpretation, they made treaties and received plots of land. It was a theory the Native Americans had never accepted or even comprehended.

Wednesday, 29 July 2009

Pool in the woods of Caria

Hermes (pronounced /ˈhɜrmiːz/; Greek Ἑρμῆς) is the Messenger of the gods in Greek mythology. An Olympian god, he is also the patron of boundaries and of the travelers who cross them, of shepherds and cowherds, of thieves and road travelers, of orators and wit, of literature and poets, of athletics, of weights and measures, of invention, of general commerce, and of the cunning of thieves and liars.[1] His symbols include the tortoise, the cock, the winged sandals, and the caduceus. The analogous Roman deity is Mercury.


Aphrodite (Greek: Ἀφροδίτη; Latin: Venus) (pronounced /ˌæfrɵˈdaɪtiː/; Ancient Greek: IPA: [apʰɾoˈdiːtɛː], Modern Greek: [afɾoˈðiti]) is the Greek goddess of love and beauty.[2] According to Greek poet Hesiod, she was born when Ouranos was castrated by his son Cronus. Cronus threw his severed genitals into the sea, and from the aphros (sea foam) arose Aphrodite.

Because of her beauty other gods feared that jealousy would interrupt the peace among them and lead to war, and so Zeus married her to Hephaestus, who was not viewed as a threat. However, Aphrodite became instrumental in the Eros and Psyche legend, and later was both Adonis' lover and his surrogate mother.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Salmacis and Hermaphroditus by Bartholomeus Spranger (c. 1598).

In Greek mythology, Hermaphroditus or Hermaphroditos (Ancient Greek: ʽἙρμάφρόδιτός) was the child of Aphrodite and Hermes. Born a remarkably handsome boy, he was transformed into an androgynous being by union with the nymph Salmacis.[1] His name is the basis for the word hermaphrodite.

At the age of fifteen, he grew bored of his surroundings and traveled the cities of Lycia and Caria. It was in the woods of Caria, near Halicarnassus (modern Bodrum, Turkey) that he encountered Salmacis the Naiad in her pool. She was overcome by lust for the boy, and tried to seduce him, but was rejected. When he thought her to be gone, Hermaphroditus undressed and entered the waters of the empty pool. Salmacis sprang out from behind a tree and jumped into the pool. She wrapped herself around the boy, forcibly kissing him and touching his breast. While he struggled, she called out to the gods that they should never part. Her wish was granted, and their bodies blended into one intersex form. Hermaphroditus, in his shame and grief, made his own vow, cursing the pool so that any other who bathes within it shall be transformed as well. "In this form the story was certainly not ancient" Karl Kerenyi noted, as compared the myth of the beautiful ephebe with Narcissus and Hyacinthus, who had an archaic hero-cult, and Hymenaios.


In Greek mythology, Salmacis was an atypical naiad who rejected the ways of the virginal Greek goddess Artemis in favor of vanity and idleness. Her attempted rape of Hermaphroditus places her as the only nymph rapist in the Greek mythological canon.

"There dwelt a Nymph, not up for hunting or archery:
unfit for footraces. She the only Naiad not in Diana’s band.
Often her sisters would say: “Pick up a javelin, or
bristling quiver, and interrupt your leisure for the chase!”
But she would not pick up a javelin or arrows,
nor trade leisure for the chase.
Instead she would bathe her beautiful limbs and tend to her hair, with her
waters as a mirror."

Ovid, Metamorphoses. Book IV, 306-312.

androgynous | andrdns | a. E17. [f. L androgynus (see prec.) + -OUS.] 1 Uniting the (physical) characters of both sexes; hermaphrodite. Also, of ambiguous sex; partly male and partly female in appearance. E17. 2 Astrol. Of a planet: sometimes hot, sometimes cold. M17. 3 Bot. Bearing stamens and pistils on the same inflorescence, or on the same plant. M18.

hermaphrodite | hmafrdLt | n. & a. LME. [L hermaphroditus f. Gk hermaphroditos, orig. in Greek mythol. the name of the son of Hermes and Aphrodite, who became joined in one body with the nymph Salmacis.] A n. 1 A human being or animal combining characteristics of both sexes. LME. b fig. A person or thing combining two opposite qualities or functions; Naut. a ship having the characters of two kinds of vessel, esp. a hermaphrodite brig. LME. c A homosexual; an effeminate man. Long rare. L16. 2 An animal having normally both male and female sexual organs, as many snails and earthworms. E18. 3 A flower in which both stamens and pistils are present; a plant having such flowers. E18.

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Perseus Polls

Polls :

Tuesday, 28 July 2009

More Dialogue: Cetus

"If you stay fixed to the Rock of Gibraltar, I am going to send the Dolphin around to trampoline all over you!"

The Dolphin is well known blubbery endomorph (Glaucus Pressure Cooker Divination System using Underwater Critters).

Monday, 27 July 2009

Dialogue: Bennies

Benny Volent, Benny Fishhead (or Fissary), Neil Down & Jack Heart.

This is the Perseus folk lore system

Is Benny Factor > Benny Fissary
and Benny Volent without a recipient unless it is Neil Down

But where does the Architect INTP fit in?

For the Benefit of Mister Kite, the Promoter ESTP puts on the show and ESFP Kite (type of Butterfly in this instance) is the beneficiary.
He is the chosen one. Except the ESTP isn't Beneficient, so he is doing it for himself. ESFJ are typical benefactors choosing their friends to receive the benefits and excluding the others. The SJ Guards must have their clubs where the approved people can join in. I want to join the NP Union.

Benfactors are ENFJ, INFJ, ISFJ, ESFJ in the Perseus system.

Sunday, 26 July 2009

Hammer & Sickle

Relations of Benefit
INTp is 'Beneficiary'
ISTj is 'Benefactor'

Actually, I get on well with ISTJ


Super-Ego Relations

What does this mean?

Super-Ego Relations
These are relations of mutual respect between partners. Super-Ego partners may think of each other as a distant and slightly mysterious ideal. They often show interest in each other's manners, behaviour.

My opinion of ISFP is very poor. I find them basic rather than mysterious and I don't trust them.

Conclusion. Socionics is the Stalinist ESTP behaviouralist interpetation and exactly the opposite of the INTP view.

Saturday, 25 July 2009

Perseus Marriage Bureau

With reservations about the MBTI system, but if you are into it, the Perseus matches, Marriage, Best Man and Worst Matches are at:

Perseus System

Personality Cafe Exclusive

These ignore the Mother-in-Law and the friends of each partner.

Thursday, 23 July 2009

WereBears and WereCats (WereGold)

Wake up a Bear ISTP in the middle of winter and you might find (s)he has a sore head.

That Bear will swim for Greenland, but the Cat won't even get her paws wet. Well it might reluctantly put a toe into the water. Cats ISFP can't take the pressure. They will find a new home first.

Wednesday, 22 July 2009

What Planet are you from?

Terran | tern | a. & n. M20. [f. as prec. + -AN.] A adj. In science fiction, of or pertaining to the planet Earth or its inhabitants. M20. B n. In science fiction, an inhabitant of the planet Earth. M20.

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From the Latin. Terra = Earth

terrestrial | trestrl | a. & n. LME. [f. L terrestris, f. terra earth: see -IAL.] A adj. 1 Of or pertaining to this world, or earth as opp. to heaven; earthly; worldly; mundane. LME. 2 Of, pertaining to, or referring to the planet Earth. Freq. in terrestrial ball, terrestrial globe, the Earth. M16. b Proceeding from, or belonging to, the solid earth or its soil; not atmospheric. rare. L16. c Consisting of earth or soil. joc. rare. M19. d Astron. Designating planets which are similar in size or composition to the planet Earth, as Mercury, Venus, and Mars. *

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Sensors are Earthlings, or members of the Terran Empire.

* Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. This book ony applies to Sensors.

Mars was the Roman warrior god, the son of Juno and Jupiter, husband of Bellona, and the lover of Venus. He was the most prominent of the military gods that were worshipped by the Roman legions.

Venus was a major Roman goddess principally associated with love, beauty and fertility, who played a key role in many Roman religious festivals and myths.

Intuitives/Intropsectives will come from far out places like Neptune, or what is reputed to be more agricultural is Saturn.

Saturn (Latin: Saturnus) was a major Roman god of agriculture and harvest. In medieval times he was known as the Roman god of agriculture, justice and strength; he held a sickle in his left hand and a bundle of wheat in his right.

Neptune (Latin: Neptūnus) is the god of water and the sea in Roman mythology, a brother of Jupiter and Pluto.

In Roman mythology, Jupiter or Jove was the king of the gods, and the god of sky and thunder.

Uranus is the Latinized form of Ouranos (Οὐρανός), the Greek word for sky.

Pluto was originally the Roman god of certain metals and fish,[citation needed] but because these materials are mined he also took on the role of god of the underworld.

In Roman mythology, Mercury (associated with the Greek deity Hermes) was a messenger, [1] and a god of trade, profit and commerce,

In Greek and Roman mythology, Apollo (in Greek, Ἀπόλλων—Apóllōn or Ἀπέλλων—Apellōn), is one of the most important and many-sided of the Olympian deities. The ideal of the kouros (a beardless youth), Apollo has been variously recognized as a god of light and the sun; truth and prophecy; archery; medicine and healing; music, poetry, and the arts; and more.

In Greek mythology, Charon or Kharon (pronounced /ˈkɛərən/; Greek Χάρων) was the ferryman of Hades who carried souls of the newly deceased across the river that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead. A coin to pay Charon for passage, usually an obolus or danake, was sometimes placed in or on the mouth of a dead person.[

Monday, 20 July 2009

Cognitive Evaluation Theory

Cognitive Evaluation Theory

This theory suggests that there are actually two motivation systems: intrinsic and extrinsic that correspond to two kinds of motivators:

* intrinsic motivators: Achievement, responsibility and competence. motivators that come from the actual performance of the task or job -- the intrinsic interest of the work.
* extrinsic: pay, promotion, feedback, working conditions -- things that come from a person's environment, controlled by others.

One or the other of these may be a more powerful motivator for a given individual.

Intrinsically motivated individuals perform for their own achievement and satisfaction. If they come to believe that they are doing some job because of the pay or the working conditions or some other extrinsic reason, they begin to lose motivation.

The belief is that the presence of powerful extrinsic motivators can actually reduce a person's intrinsic motivation, particularly if the extrinsic motivators are perceived by the person to be controlled by people. In other words, a boss who is always dangling this reward or that stick will turn off the intrinsically motivated people.

Note that the intrinsic motivators tend to be higher on the Maslow hierarchy.

Intrinsic Motivation

Intrinsic motivation

Intrinsic motivation comes from rewards inherent to a task or activity itself - the enjoyment of a puzzle or the love of playing basketball, for example. One is said to be intrinsically motivated when engaging in an activity "with no apparent reward except for the activity itself".[1] This form of motivation has been studied by social and educational psychologists since the early 1970s. Research has found that it is usually associated with high educational achievement and enjoyment by students. Intrinsic motivation has been explained by Fritz Heider's attribution theory, Bandura's work on self-efficacy [2], and Ryan and Deci's cognitive evaluation theory. Students are likely to be intrinsically motivated if they:
  • attribute their educational results to internal factors that they can control (e.g. the amount of effort they put in),
  • believe they can be effective agents in reaching desired goals (i.e. the results are not determined by luck),
  • are interested in mastering a topic, rather than just rote-learning to achieve good grades.
Motivation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sunday, 19 July 2009

Ingenious or Art ?

ingenious | ndins | a. LME. [(Fr. ingenieux f.) L ingeniosus, f. INGENIUM: see -OUS.] I 1 Orig., possessing high mental ability, talented, intelligent, discerning. Now spec. clever at making, inventing, or contriving things, esp. of a curious or unexpected nature. LME. 2 Exemplifying high mental ability, showing intelligence. Now spec. cleverly contrived or made. L15.
1 T. BROWN Winemakes the dull ingenious. T. GENT Travels of Cyrusworthy the Perusal of every ingenious Person. J. BARZUN To be ingenious about devising activities is the mark of the 'imaginative' teacher. 2 T. HEARNE 'Twas a good ingenious Sermon, about Praise. H. JACOBSON He was a great advocate for electricity and ingenious electrical gadgets.
II Used by confusion for INGENUOUS or L ingenuus. 3 Having a noble disposition; spec. honourably candid or straightforward. L16-L18. 4 Well-born. Of education etc.: befitting a well-born person. L16-L18.ingeniously adv. LME. ingeniousness n. M16.

art | t | n.1 ME. [(O)Fr. f. L art-, ars, f. a base meaning 'put together, join, fit'.] I Skill. (As a non-count n.) 1 Skill as the result of knowledge and practice. ME. b spec. Technical or professional skill. ME-L17. c Human skill, as opp. to nature. LME. 2 The learning of the schools; scholarship. Now arch. & Hist. ME. 3 The application of skill according to aesthetic principles, esp. in the production of visible works of imagination, imitation, or design (painting, sculpture, architecture, etc.); skilful execution of workmanship as an object in itself; the cultivation of the production of aesthetic objects in its principles, practice, and results. E17.

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Artillery Fire

I do NOT have trouble with emotions if I feel SAFE. I might have trouble of knowing how to express them if I am not AWARE of the scene. If there are people I don't trust around, I become inhibited.

Mainly these are the Bombadiers from the rival gang.

Types SJ, mainly ESFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ, ISFJ, but controlled by a ENTJ with ISFP female accomplices. INTJ Deputy so you can't Shoot the Sheriff, not unless you want to be gang leader.

Some types need acceptance for who they are (Perseus system). These are the NPs. Then you are Tilicum.

Frizzy Edges PN Psychedelic

Frizzy Edges PN Psychedelic

Other people have disorders, not me. My mind is ordered except for the frizzy edges.

The frizzy edges is what the judgers see. Sensors interpet differently.

Frizzy edges is a frizzy term. It is in the frizzy bit, not incorporated into the manifesto yet.

Saturday, 18 July 2009

Rock of Gibraltar

Jung's typology was popularized in the United States by Myers-Briggs who added a fourth factor -- the judging-perceiving preference which relates to the propensity to stop perception to make a decision. The judging type does this sooner than the perceiving type.

Perseus conclusions: the importance of education and information.

This is why the Schizotypal Disorder is called the Information Deficit Syndrome in the Perseus Overlay Programs. In real life, when the person is lied to, deceived and tricked, the intuition kicks in and the person can be called Paranoid, or Para-annoyed (Besides Oneself).

Been treated like a farm animal
On a wild goose chase

East of the Jordan, hard as the Rock of Gibraltar,
I see the burning of the page, Curtain risin' on a new age,
See the groom still waitin' at the altar.

Try to be pure at heart, they arrest you for robbery,
Mistake your shyness for aloofness, your shyness for snobbery,
Got the message this morning, the one that was sent to me
About the madness of becomin' what one was never meant to be.

Birds of a Feather

The idiom Birds of a Feather is from the proverb "Birds of a feather flock together," meaning that similar people congregate. In old poetic English, "birds of a feather" means birds which have the same kind of feathers, so the proverb refers to the fact that birds congregate with birds of their own species. This proverb has been in use since the 16th century.

Plato used the phrase in The Republic, 360 B.C.E, "I will tell you, Socrates, he said, what my own feeling is. Men of my age flock together; we are birds of a feather, as the old proverb says;"

Wednesday, 15 July 2009

Questions ?

NP Questor mode asks questions from an N position for the manifesto.

N is equated with the ability to acquire knowledge. Agree or disagree? So Ns are more knowledgeable, actually or potentially.

T is equated with the ability to perform well in IQ tests

P is equated with the temperamental tendency of how deep to go into a subject or object.

Another question:

If a NP is a Questor and a PN is a Psychedelic
If a SP is an Artisan, what is a PS ?

Tuesday, 14 July 2009

Brave New World Menagerie

Brave New World Menagerie
In the Brave New World, the head Monkey Man XXXX has declared that there should be no inter-animal connexions and matings and all Snakes ENTP should mate with other serpents and the Cat ISFP should not get into bed with the Wolf ENTJ. And all the Thespians and Masked Men and Narks should face the Inquisition to find out their true animal type and trangressors should be sent to the Hospital for realignment.

Sunday, 12 July 2009

Shape Shifting

In Perseus speak, this is the opportunity to morph-shift between different types, albeit temporarily and sometimes with an energy loss or disorientation. Shape shifting because in Perseus Modern Animism you actually change into different animal types in the dream world.

I find that I can relatively easily shape shift along the E-I scale according to situations. If I am compelled or choose to be were I am uncomfortable, I can rise above such unfortunate circumstances, raising by introversion level from 8/12 and rising above the mundane high in the sky to 10/12, or on the feeding grounds and at the watering hole I can shape shift from Bird of Prey to Turtle XNTP, by withdrawing into a hard shell. Or I slither in the grass down by the lake ENTP ... but beware of spooking the Cavalry.

Or S-N scale I am less adaptable. If there is a malign influence, perhaps a Dirty Rat XNTP
, I might suffer illness, and my iNtuition says No and I am paralysed or must leave. N is 10/12.

My F-T is quite adaptable as well. I can turn of thinking if I want, or at least I think I do, ha, ha.

Perception running at 11/12 is the really difficult one for me. It is very difficult to shift down from Golden Eagle (with a broken heart) even to Peregrine Falcon INTX.
The Sparrowhawk INTJ can at least survive in the woods with the Bears ISTP wheareas the Eagle is at a loss and vulnerable.

How well do you shape shift?

Friday, 10 July 2009


Sappho was reported to have three brothers; Erigyius (or Eurygius), Larichus and Charaxus. The Oxyrhynchus papyrus says that Charaxus was the eldest but that Sappho was more fond of the young Larichus.

During the Victorian era, it became the fashion to describe Sappho as the headmistress of a girls' finishing school.

Tuesday, 7 July 2009

The Eagle and its Feathers

Most all North American Native People attach special significance to the Eagle and its feathers.

Both Bald and Golden Eagles (and their feathers) are highly revered and considered sacred within Native traditions, culture and religion. They are honoured with great care and shown the deepest respect. They represent honesty, truth, majesty, strength, courage, wisdom, power and freedom. As they roam the sky, they are believed to have a special connection to Creator.

According to traditional Native beliefs, the Creator made all the birds of the sky when the World was new. Of all the birds, the Creator chose the Eagle to be the leader... the Master of the Sky.

The Eagle flies higher and sees better than any other bird. Therefore, its perspective is different from other creations that are held close to the Earth, and it is closer to the Creator. The Creator also has a different perspective of what occurs below in this world of physical things in which humankind resides. The Eagle spends more time in the higher element of Father Sky than other birds, and Father Sky is an element of the Spirit.

For Native people an Eagle feather is used in ceremonies to call upon the Creator and to command respect and focus on the situation at hand.

In a talking circle the person holding the Eagle Feather is the only person who can speak and once that person is finished he or she passes the feather on to the next person who speaks and again attention to the words being spoken by the new individual is commanded.


intersection | ntsek()n | n. M16. [L intersectio(n-), f. as prec.: see -ION.] 1 The action or fact of intersecting. M16. 2 The place where two or more things intersect; spec. (Geom.) the point at which a line intersects a line or surface, or the line common to two intersecting surfaces. M16. b A place where two or more roads intersect or form a junction. Chiefly N. Amer. M19. 3 Math. & Logic. The relation of two classes each of which includes part of the other; the resulting set of elements common to both. E20.

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But let's start with just the four most basic types:

Plato, 340 BC Artisan (SP) Guardian (SJ) Idealist (NF) Rational (NT)
Galen, 190 AD Sanguine Melancholic Choleric Phlegmatic
Paracelsus, 1550 Changeable Industrious Inspired Curious
Fromm, 1947 Exploitative Hoarding Receptive Marketing
Myers, 1958 Probing Scheduling Friendly Tough-minded
Self-Image (Keirsey, 1998) Artistic


Orientation (Keirsey, 1998) Hedonistic



Saturday, 4 July 2009

Perseus System Poll 2 (Revised)

For the Benefit of Mister Kite

Originally Posted by Perseus View Post
benevolent | bnev()l()nt | a. LME. [OFr. benivolent f. L benevolent- pres. ppl stem of bene velle wish well: see -ENT.] 1 Desirous of the good of others; of a kindly disposition; charitable. LME. 2 Well-disposed (to another). L15.

benefit | benft | n. LME. [AN benfet, OFr. bienfet, -fait ult. f. L benefactum good deed, f. bene facere: see BENEFACTION.] 1 A thing well done; a good deed. LME-E19. 2 A kind deed; a favour, gift; a benefaction. arch

I don't think Keirsey explains the difference.

Benevolent is that everybody benefits long term

Beneficient is that the chosen ones benefit in the short term

PS: I don't value the second all that much as it leads to hedonism and favouritism, but also to close friendships and even marriage.

I don't think we have that many Charity workers and volunteers to do good in the world. Zero votes for these two. Why don't people see themselves as doing good in the world. Doesn't it have any value nowadays?

For the benefit of Mister Kite
There will be a show tonight on trampoline.
The Hendersons will all be there
Late of Pablo Fanques Fair - what a scene!
Over man and horses hoops and garters
Lastly through a hogshead of real fire!
In this way Mister K. will challenge the world!
The celebrated Mister K.
performs his feat on Saturday at Bishopsgate.
The Hendersons will dance and sing
As Mister Kite flies through the ring - don't be late!
Messrs. K. and H. assure the public
Their production will be second to none.
And of course Henry The Horse (ESFJ) dances the waltz!

Friday, 3 July 2009

Authentic and Resolute

Authentic and Resolute are opposites.

resolve | rzlv | n. L16. [f. the vb.] 1 A firm intention, a resolution. L16. 2 Firmness or steadfastness of purpose. L16. 3 An answer, a solution. Only in 17. 4 A formal resolution of a legislative body, meeting, etc

authentic | thentk | a. & n. LME. [OFr. autentique (mod. authentique) f. late L authenticus f. Gk authentikos principal, genuine

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Comments: Resolution towards a solution
Authentic: Genuineness without regard to a solution cf. martyr

martyr | mt | n. & v. [OE martir = OFris., OS, OHG martir, f. eccl.L martyr f. Gk martur.] A n. 1 A person who voluntarily undergoes the death penalty for refusing to renounce the Christian faith or a Christian doctrine, for persevering in a Christian virtue, or for obeying a law of the Church. OE. 2 A person who undergoes death or great suffering on behalf of any religious or other cause, or as a consequence of devotion to some object. (Foll. by to.) OE. 3 A person who suffers tortures comparable to those described in the legends of martyrs; a constant sufferer. (Foll. by to an ailment, etc.) M16. 4 A person who dies a victim to something. L18.
Phrases: make a martyr of (now freq. joc.) subject to hardship or inconvenience. make a martyr of oneself make a real or pretended sacrifice of one's inclinations in order to be more highly thought of.

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Married to the Mob

benevolent | bnev()l()nt | a. LME. [OFr. benivolent f. L benevolent- pres. ppl stem of bene velle wish well: see -ENT.] 1 Desirous of the good of others; of a kindly disposition; charitable. LME. 2 Well-disposed (to another). L15.

benefit | benft | n. LME. [AN benfet, OFr. bienfet, -fait ult. f. L benefactum good deed, f. bene facere: see BENEFACTION.] 1 A thing well done; a good deed. LME-E19. 2 A kind deed; a favour, gift; a benefaction. arch

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I don't think Keirsey explains the difference.

Benevolent is that everybody benefits long term

Beneficient is that the chosen ones benefit in the short term

PS: I don't value the second all that much as it leads to hedonism and favouritism, but also to close friendships and even marriage.

Perseus System Poll 2

What are your three greatest needs (to be seen as) ?

Who designed the Miniature Christs that glow in the Dark?

Psychology: Who designed the Miniature Christs that glow in the Dark?
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No, I wasn't going to be an asshole because I realize Perseus is out there, it's just the way it is.

I am very accepting of my Aspieness, there is nothing negative about this and I trust my psychiatrist.

Asperger's Syndrome is not necessarily negative. I see it as a genetic gift TBH. My neural networks just run a different route then most, I am still a human like everyone else - which is not necessarily positive.

I would disagree that most INTPs have Aspie traits as they have functional mirror neurons. The only bad Aspie trait IMO is the lack of empathy, but hey, we can't all be ESFJs.
I am a writer and system builder not a psychologist. In folk terms it is

Hearing the Orchestra


Opening the Picture Book

I think this is a whole new ball game and not related to Jungian personality types, but more which senses are predominate for cognition of information.

I am visual. But then there is Extra-Sensory Perception for the people with very high P scores, not blocked out by Intuition or Thinking. The Wolfman Psi Cop calls these delusions.

The Perseus Pathos Scale argues that empathy etc is a socio-political trait. In the Thieves Kitchen (ESFJ) the Mad Scientist is a psychopath!

Who designed the Miniature Christs that glow in the Dark?

I want my Bread Buttered please

I have difficulty with

Ni - introverted iNtuiting
Foreseeing implications and likely effects without external data; realizing “what will be”; conceptualizing new ways of seeing things; envisioning transformations; getting an image of profound meaning or far-reaching symbols.

According to Berens this is my Critical Parent and my best advisor would be an INTJ because this is his leading process. Howewver, I would expect criticism from this source.

In practice I accuse people of deceiving me by not letting me have the data I need, and then I want find a Ferret ENFP to help me out!

In the Perseus Overlay System this is called the Information Deficit Disorder (Detached Viewpoint). "I want my bread buttered please."

Last Tango in Paris?

Perseus System Poll

Which of the following describes you best? (choose the 3 most typical of you)

Wednesday, 1 July 2009

Weasels ripped your Flesh

Eagles (INTP) can soar but Weasels (ENFP) don't get sucked into Jet Engines (Secret designation).